Assetto Corsa Comp FKR ACC Prep Series

The person you are battling with will also lose time when he gets lapped, so normally it equals out. It's often much better to lift at a smart point than to make the lapping car make an actual overtake in a corner.
Some backmarkers are very unpredictable, which makes it very hard to know where to pass, so I don't agree that it's up to the lapping car, it should be done by both parties in a way that's safe and fastest for each and that's done with a rare commodity called common sense.

 

Where did you see this? As stated in a previous post the rules state
"Blue flag means there is a faster car approaching."
and
"In SimRacingOnline events, blue-flags are for information-only and do not mean that the car being lapped should move off the racing line. However the car being lapped must allow the faster car past or risk being penalised."

 

" In SimRacingOnline events, blue-flags are for information-only and do not mean that the car being lapped should move off the racing line. " this sentence may be commented keep racing and conlifts between this sentence and " However the car being lapped must allow the faster car past or risk being penalised ". So, whichone the pilot cares? first or second. This is obviously gray area. The rule wouldnt be commented especially If it is exact. Otherwise everyone is right under this term to me.

 

Both of them must care, but, in case of collision, the backmarker or car being lapped will be faulty. It's a compromise, like a motorway ramp, for instance, cars helping each other in the merging but if an accident will happen during that approach, the car entering the motorway has the responsibility.

 

No need to wait the cars hit eachother as making the rule exact for clean and healthy races. Blue flag should be a rule, should not be open a comment as much as all flags. Otherwise welcome to the crashes or blockings.

 

I was p21 and under blue flag from Taner, but by no means were Nelson (p17) and I holding him up.

Not pointing fingers or trying to trigger an argument, but for context, I was out of position having wrecked the car in the first lap incident, but by no means was I ignoring blue flags. Taner just wasn't close enough to warrant moving out the way at that moment. When he did get close enough, something happened with a red Ferrari behind us and Taner missed the chicane altogether, and then collided with Nelson at the first Lesmo.

I don't believe drivers should be expected to lift off the gas just because the blue flag has come up. It should be for to the "lead" car to close the gap and then the "lapped" car can safely give room to the "lead" car. As an indiciation of my race pace, and if I am not mistaken, I kept behind p5 for a really good length of time.

 

I was all whole lap behind you and have to break earlier every turn. When you pit out, you should have seen the blue flags and would have been good just not too push to jump in front of me. Anyway. This is not personal but blue flag rule obviously causes bad cases.

 

I was out of position and it would not benefit me to slow you down, I didn't think I was in your way and I was montoring the gap. Nelson and I were talking at the time and Nelson was about to yield for me as I was faster than him, which reduced my pace somewhat.

The closest I remember you getting to me was the Parabolica and if it wasn't for the incident with the red Ferrari, I was likely to be out of your way.

So apologies if I held you up Taner, I had no intention of doing so.

 

My experience is that "you slow down; you get overtaken".
I think you should add the rule that overtaking is not allowed when a yellow flag is displayed.

 

I'd rather slow down and be overtaken be 2 or 3 cars and still have a 100% drivable car, than keep my foot down in the slight hope of making it through a crash area with zero damage.

 

I did not realise that "Local-caution flags" referred to Yellow Flags in rule 2.6 Flag Observance
If I had thought about it I would have most probably figured it out but... Perhaps you could write it a bit clearer for people like me. And going by most races I would say that I am not the only one that overlooked this. What other flags are considered "Local-caution"?

 

That makes two of us, at least.
But what actually happens is that the person behind, who has perhaps slowed down a pinch,
a) runs into the back of you or,
b) runs into the side of you while overtaking or
c) runs into the spinning/stopped cars up ahead and you end up running into the bigger chaos.
Anyway, that is now irrelavant. Just need to make everyone aware of the rule "Local-caution flags".

 

As Roger said, blue flag is not a pull over and park until the driver behind you has passed. Blue flag is that there is a faster driver behind you. Driving defensively and blocking a faster car behind you on purpose is not good form but you are allowed to keep racing and driving at your own pace. If you are faster, good for yuo, then find find the spot to overtakle normally - don't expect drivers to slow down and open the door - they may do so, but it's not compulsory.

IMHO.

 

Agreed that many do not observe flag rules. Be it yellow or blue. I always slow down for yellow if there is traffic, if its a yellow flag and there is no one around sure I stay on the pedal, otherwise slow down, but often you will notice someone closing in on you like a torpedo in a yellow flag situation which can be scary. People also pass under yellow, I know the game does not penalize for this, but we all watch racing, we should obey the rules.

As for blue flags, most of my experiences have been fine. When you are closing in on traffic .5 a lap faster I think they should have the common decency to make it "easier" on you on when you are on their gearbox. No one benefits from this. I don't believe anyone goes faster with someone on their tail, neither the driver ahead nor the driver behind. If you know the d00de behind you is much quicker AND its blue flag, just move out of the way. But any time I seen a blue flag in real life, the driver lifts and lets the car by.

There was a case in Barcelona where I passed a car and was under a blue flag to that car, I was on fresh tyres he was yet to pit, yet his pace was almost the same as mine but I was under a "blue flag" but I just kept on driving because if he passed me I'd be putting moves on him again because of his tyres and I did legitimately pass him.

If I know I just don't have the pace I wont fight too hard even if its for position, I'd rather let them pass and try to find my rhythm without the pressure of having someone on your tail not knowing if the next corner is the one you two collide......but that is all personal I guess.

In ACC it is hard to overtake, even if you got a few tenths on someone its just not easy. I learned a few lessons in Barca, like pit early if you are stuck behind a train of cars that you feel you got the edge on if its near your pit Window. Get stuck lapping 5.+ for 6+ laps losing over 4 seconds for the race or go get new tyres and avoid all that.

But at the end of the day its a long race, the tyre model is good and I think you should always think long term, letting it all hang out over one position early or mid race is just the wrong approach in this game.

 

+1
Very well said.