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Discussion in 'Assetto Corsa league: DRM mod Closed' started by John vd Geest, Jun 3, 2020.

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  1. Tim Muttram

    Tim Muttram Pro Driver

    We've got 10 of the 14 in AC - mostly in the correct layout. I can think of a few shoe-ins for the remainders too, although they'll involve trips to Slovakia and New Zealand :p
     
    Tim Muttram, Jul 4, 2020
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  2. John vd Geest

    John vd Geest Administrator Staff Member Donator

    The default practise password has been changed. Please visit the event page for more details.
     
    John vd Geest, Jul 5, 2020
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  3. John vd Geest

    John vd Geest Administrator Staff Member Donator

    In my opinion things are getting a little too complicated with the determination of the car classes.

    By now you need to have a DRM masters degree to understand all the ins and outs of all the cars and how they balance to each other. I suspect most guys in this league don't even have time to confirm or un-confirm the findings that the in-depth testers have found. And only a few guys respond to those result posts.

    I am for keeping things simple. We are here to have fun after all, and not to get a headage analyzing all that stuff.
    So this is what I propose:

    Set up the DRM as 1 class with all the cars on offer.
    The balance of the cars will come mostly from the tracks we use, so to keep it fair to all cars:
    3 power tracks
    3 medium to low power tracks

    It is then up to the driver to select a car that specializes in power or medium tracks or select a car that is good at both on average.
    Problem solved and we can focus on the driving itself.

    Who agrees with me on this?
     
    Last edited: Jul 7, 2020
    John vd Geest, Jul 7, 2020
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  4. Kimi Martikainen

    Kimi Martikainen Pro Driver

    I agree, except but why only 6 tracks, 12 is twice better. Quote from Yngvie Malmsteen " I never understand people who say less is more, more is more, period!" :)
     
    Kimi Martikainen, Jul 7, 2020
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  5. Fabrizio Ferrante

    Fabrizio Ferrante Pro Driver

    Unfortunately I didn't have time to do tests in these days in Oesterreichring. From Thursday I think I can do some laps. I like to be a test driver, so it won't be a problem for me. :)

    From what little I have seen, I think the two fastest cars (Capri and 935 K3) are too fast and the 3 slowest cars (Escort, BMW 320 and 2002) are too slow. What is in the middle is quite balanced instead.
    For the championship we could therefore use:
    - Ferrari 308
    - BMW M1
    - Porsche 935 K2
    - Lancia Montecarlo
    - Toyota Celica

    A mix of fast and tight circuits should be good, in my opinion.
     
    Fabrizio Ferrante, Jul 7, 2020
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  6. John vd Geest

    John vd Geest Administrator Staff Member Donator

    Twelve is a bit much for a series that runs every 2 weeks. :). That's 24 weeks = half a year.
    I will extend it to 7 races at the most, otherwise it occupies the SRO calendar too much with too little variation.
     
    John vd Geest, Jul 7, 2020
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  7. Kimi Martikainen

    Kimi Martikainen Pro Driver

    Forget totally that bi-weekly system...can I haggle for 9 race? ;)
     
    Kimi Martikainen, Jul 7, 2020
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  8. John vd Geest

    John vd Geest Administrator Staff Member Donator

    And now you have to get members to agree with you for a majority vote :)
     
    John vd Geest, Jul 7, 2020
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  9. John vd Geest

    John vd Geest Administrator Staff Member Donator

    Sorry, but 7 must be the max :)
    Also don't forget that the longer a series runs, the fewer people will attend.
     
    John vd Geest, Jul 7, 2020
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  10. Tim Muttram

    Tim Muttram Pro Driver

    I've no problem with the suggestion John - if we can get a gentleman's agreement to keep the fastest drivers out of the fastest cars that should help keep things interesting.
    As much fun as it is I'm not taking the 2002 though :p (I actually think that if we can find or make a large skin pack it would make for a great single class series).
     
    Tim Muttram, Jul 7, 2020
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  11. John vd Geest

    John vd Geest Administrator Staff Member Donator

    Sounds good.
    We can make a special rule for the drivers in the faster cars. If you win 2 races with the fastest cars (class 1), you have to switch to class 2.
    That doesn't work on trust, but on agreement and works much better. Otherwise we'll get endless discussions with the winners.
    I think this is a pretty good rule, sort of like a weight penalty, and we should use it. Agreed?

    I don't think there's a need for a custom skinpack. We will work with the real skin patch, which has plenty of authentic skins.
     
    Last edited: Jul 7, 2020
    John vd Geest, Jul 7, 2020
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  12. Kimi Martikainen

    Kimi Martikainen Pro Driver

    We had that rule back in days @nogrip in one series we run and it worked very well then.
     
    Kimi Martikainen, Jul 7, 2020
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  13. Tim Muttram

    Tim Muttram Pro Driver

    Custom skins was only in reference to a single makes series using the 2002's - I don't think there are enough skins for 20+ cars even combining the DRM + historic skins.

    I won't need demoting to class 2 - that's the highest I'm likely to start in ;)
     
    Tim Muttram, Jul 7, 2020
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  14. Laurent Londes

    Laurent Londes Pro Driver

    Laurent Londes, Jul 15, 2020
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  15. John vd Geest

    John vd Geest Administrator Staff Member Donator

    Everyone interested in the DRM series has to buy the DLC DRM update v1.3

    I think that's fair to the DRM modders who spend an enormous amount of time developing and updating this mod. :)
     
    Last edited: Jul 17, 2020
    John vd Geest, Jul 15, 2020
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  16. Paul Anstey

    Paul Anstey Pro Driver

    Paul Anstey, Jul 15, 2020
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  17. Paul Anstey

    Paul Anstey Pro Driver

    So we will all be fighting over 2nd place then ;)
     
    Paul Anstey, Jul 15, 2020
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  18. Tim Muttram

    Tim Muttram Pro Driver

    Bugger - that's all my testing out the window then! :eek:
    The new 3 series looks :cool: can't wait to give it a spin
     
    Tim Muttram, Jul 15, 2020
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  19. John vd Geest

    John vd Geest Administrator Staff Member Donator

    Then I have to remind you about common human behaviour. That won't happen. They'll take it if they can :D
     
    John vd Geest, Jul 15, 2020
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  20. John vd Geest

    John vd Geest Administrator Staff Member Donator

    I was thinking the same thing when I saw it ...
     
    John vd Geest, Jul 15, 2020
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