Assetto Corsa Comp Round 2 kyalami_2019

Discussion in 'Tuesday Night ACC Porsche Cup Closed' started by Rob Milliken, Sep 26, 2020.

  1. FKR

    FKR SRO Team Owner

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  2. Andrew Williams

    Andrew Williams Pro Driver

    I'm pretty sure on the grid when we were stationary with the count down before the start, there was a couple of spaces on the grid, which is also shown in Matteo photos above.

    When I've joined public servers before, people leave after qualifying, then the grid rearranges during the formation to the start.

    No fault of yours Rob, if people unregister, then I'm sure you can leave them in place on the entry list, and it will shuffle everybody into the new order (excluding the no shows) during the formation.
     
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  3. Matteo Santini

    Matteo Santini Pro Driver

    I've no experience with setting the server with an entry list. I was just wondering if that holes "unsettles" the widget or cars position in some way if a driver on the entry list won't show up the day of the race.
    I'm almost sure that Andrew is right anyway, and that the issue was related more to the fact that people is not so used with ACC widget and someone stucked in their place instead of following the position reported in the green zone of the widget, or following the arrows that indicates you must go left or right depending on the instructions you receive by the widget.
     
  4. Gavino Pintus

    Gavino Pintus Pro Driver

    Hello guys,
    What do you think if we try to do a complete rolling lap in order to have all the needed time to correctly locate our cars?
     
  5. Andrew Williams

    Andrew Williams Pro Driver

    Personally, I am not a fan of the full formation.
    Reason being, when you have to line up side by side towards the end of the lap, the drivers further back have to drive flat out for a few hundred metres to catch up to their widget, which usually results in cars flying through other cars before they drop back to their widget position.

    The actual formation part only happens towards the end of the lap.
     
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  6. Andrew Williams

    Andrew Williams Pro Driver

    Not sure how you can disagree with my personal opinion :D:D
     
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  7. Gavino Pintus

    Gavino Pintus Pro Driver

    Hi Andrew,
    maybe I was not clear. I'm not a fan of the full formation lap, but I'm trying to focus on the problem.

    If the problem are the "holes", the full formation lap should let all drivers to fill that holes.
    When this happens, anyone must go flatout, because everyone is near to the correct position.

    Anyway, in my opinion, the best way is to try, so if needed I'm available to make some tests with you guys
     
  8. Andrew Williams

    Andrew Williams Pro Driver

    The 'holes' aren't the problem
    Not following the widget is the problem

    As I say, when you do a full formation, when you have to line up side by side - the following happens.....



    as I posted above.

    So which part of my previous post are you disagreeing with just so I can understand?
    That I personally don't like full lap formation laps, or that the above video doesn't happen during the formation part at the end of them? :confused:
     
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  9. Gavino Pintus

    Gavino Pintus Pro Driver

    Well... if the problem are not the holes then the problem is a bug in the widget or between seat and steering wheel :D

    I disagree because in the past I've saw the same problem you described in the short formation lap also.
    For this reason my (maybe wrong) sensation is that the main cause of the problem are the holes.

    But, just to be more clear, I'm available for any kind of solution, and I'm available for some testing sessions
     
  10. Andrew Williams

    Andrew Williams Pro Driver

    But I didn't say that it didn't happen in the short formation for you to disagree with :confused:

    But, whatever :D:D
     
  11. Henri Miettinen

    Henri Miettinen Pro Driver

    This happens because people don’t move when they should. I don't know why they don't move, you really should have enough time to prepare to start, because there is over 2 minutes for that. If you have manual starter, you can start engine immediately when you press the 'drive' button (throttle don't work until you are allowed to go), and if you have automatic start it should start engine when you are allowed to go. Then you need to just look the widget and stay green area.
     
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  12. Tim Muttram

    Tim Muttram Pro Driver

    I might have stalled my car once or twice when the grid starts moving :oops:
    Finding the starter button in VR isn't always easy! But I've also made a point of getting back to where the app says as fast as possible :)
    Other people might manage to stall but not follow the app, which would cause the same issues
     
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  13. Flaviu Bozga

    Flaviu Bozga Pro Driver Donator

    Hi. I must recon, I'm on automatic start. And EVERY time, even in offline, at start all cars pass me before I can move. I don't know why. The engine start, I push the gas pedal and engine rev itself high and low like traction control working. I tried with just a small, small press on gas, but with this the car isn't moving at all. Maybe it is my fault, but I didn't considered this to important, because after my car start moving, I can easily follow the widget. I didn't tried with manual start yet. I know, I know. I'm lazzy. Next time when I start ACC I promise to turn automatic start OFF. And wippers as well. I lost a lot of time because they don't start when the rain started :(
     
  14. Henri Miettinen

    Henri Miettinen Pro Driver

    I drive also in VR, so I mapped ignition and starter to my wheel, so I can find those without taking headset off. And it's not problem if you stall, if you catch your correct place, but some people clearly aren't familiar with that widget. I think it's just their loss if they dare not learn it. It isn't hard if even I can do it :p
     
  15. Henri Miettinen

    Henri Miettinen Pro Driver

    That sounds weird. You should can move after your throttle works. Did you have the first gear in?
     
  16. Flaviu Bozga

    Flaviu Bozga Pro Driver Donator

    Yes. 1st
     
  17. Tim Muttram

    Tim Muttram Pro Driver

    I have an old G25, so not enough buttons here. Starter and ignition are on my home made 'dashboard'.
    All fine unless I've moved my chair or wheel relative to where that bolts to the desk :)
     
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  18. Björn Johansson

    Björn Johansson Pro Driver Donator

    My mp sessions with ACC are very few. But always there are people not follow there widget.
    XXXX up the start grid, going through you and other cars, I guess there is either a bug if you´r really close
    to the start, widget/widgets can´t sort it out, and you gain some positions by doing so. Or at least
    get a state where the grid goes unsure, if you will hit that car when the start goes. And make you a fraction off
    the throttle and gain advantage off that. There must be something going on as it happend all the time.
     
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  19. Andrew Williams

    Andrew Williams Pro Driver

    Do you have the gearstick from the G25? I have my ignition and starter on the buttons on that.
    No reaching for those so always know where they are (also in VR)

    Just to add, I'm not sure if everybody knows this, but you obviously don't need the H shifter in ACC, but you can assign those to other features.
    EG. for me
    1st and 2nd is ABS up and down
    3rd and 4th is Brake Bias up and down
    5th and 6th is TC up and down.

    Obviously if you want to go up several clicks, you have to do 1st neutral 1st neutral 1st neutral for example.
     
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  20. Tim Muttram

    Tim Muttram Pro Driver

    I do, but this is better.
    In AC I move the H-shifter and Sequential shifter to suit the car I'm driving (Having it on the wrong side is a major head**** for me in VR).
    As a result if I'm not actually using the H-shifter it's not natural to reach for the buttons.
    The panel was designed with driving sims in mind - so the twin rotary knob does TC , ABS, and wipers (Push button).
    Dial next to that deals with dash displays through the jog and push functions.
    Then you have headlights/Rainlights/indicators through the toggle switches.
    Further down I have Ignition, Starter, VR reset, and throttle maps.
    Brake bias in AC is on the sequential stick.
    Pit limiter is on the wheel as it's critical, and the flasher is too as if you need it you don't want to search for it!

    As all this only moves relative to me if the seat is moved it's more natural to reach for.
     

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