Round 4 Goodwood - Thu May 27, 2021

Discussion in 'Ferrari 250 GTO Challenge Closed' started by John vd Geest, Mar 30, 2021.

  1. John vd Geest

    John vd Geest Administrator Staff Member Donator

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    Welcome to round 4 Goodwood


     
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  2. John vd Geest

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  3. Paul Anstey

    Paul Anstey Pro Driver

    Nick Mason's Ferrari 250 GTO. Took this at Goodwood Revival 2012.

    Wonder how much that number plate is worth '250 GTO' ?

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  4. Ken Jagger

    Ken Jagger Administrator Staff Member Donator

    Probably into 6 figures, or maybe more, for the right collector. But has it always been on this specific car? If so much, much more I would imagine.

    PS - Interesting to see the collection of what look like Pilatus PC12 in the background :)
     
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  5. John vd Geest

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  6. Mark Johnson

    Mark Johnson Pro Driver

    hopefully join you guys for this one. GTO at Goodwood is a must combination :)
     
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  7. John vd Geest

    John vd Geest Administrator Staff Member Donator

    Race password has been set.
     
  8. Paul Anstey

    Paul Anstey Pro Driver

    Can't make the race tonight. Have a good one :)
     
  9. Mark Johnson

    Mark Johnson Pro Driver

    Despite the woeful turn out again, that was pretty good fun. Knew i wouldnt get near the front 4 or 5 guys as had only had time for one half hour practise session a few days ago then jumped straight into qually last night :eek: My hope was to hold onto the pack long enough to keep it interesting but that lasted as long as St marys on lap 1 when a silver car jinked right and spooked me enough onto the grass with cold tyres :rolleyes: Instant 16 second deficit :(
    Luckily enough there were just enough other runners at various points having their own off's to keep me entertained and give me someone to chase or battle and the hour fairly flew by. Even got to enjoy chasing one of the front runners for a while after my pit stop. Finished 5th.
    The cars looked spectacular on my triple 32's (life size!) and with my fake Nardi wood and chrome Ferrari rim, the immersion was great :cool:
     

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  10. Lorenzo Galluzzi

    Lorenzo Galluzzi Pro Driver

    Happy about last night race, even if i dont' like Goodwood, expecially the last chicane.
    Had a nice chase with @Alessandro Isacchini at the beginning, got the first place after he span in first corner, then @Tim Muttram started getting a proper pace and passed me after a few laps chase. He built some gap, i tried to get closer but he was too far when i started to improve my pace ( probably he was managing the gap drinking a beer).

    See you next one!
     
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  11. Lorenzo Galluzzi

    Lorenzo Galluzzi Pro Driver

    Amazing cockpit @Mark Johnson
     
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  12. Tim Muttram

    Tim Muttram Pro Driver

    No - I was managing my tires. I learnt the hard way at Estoril as I had been going hard the entire race. This destroyed my rear tires and left me defenceless when Matteo caught me around half distance.
    This time my left rear only turned yellow with about 15-20 mins to go so I had plenty of grip till the end (I think I set my FL after it went Yellow, I got an accidental drift on into T1 and decided to just go with it and do a flyer :D ).

    I was kind of confused at the amount of people stopping in the pits - Fuel was no issue here and the tires can even cope with me for an hour without issue, I was racking my brains towards the end trying to remember if pit stops were required as no-one had done them on previous races!
     
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  13. Mark Johnson

    Mark Johnson Pro Driver

    re pitstops, i thought it was mandatory, so took a fuel only top up. (my bad not reading the series rules).:oops:
     
  14. Compliments Tim for win and podium of course
    I was surprised when at the end of qualy I was my name first, a little gratification (thanks Tim for your no trained here before the race and thanks Matteo for missed qualify :D:D)

    First laps with full tank were fine but never in complete mastery, as usual for me with assetto merd.. corsa, the car is always unpredictable and so at T1 I goes wide and adios firs position..
    But for to try to be fast my great friend Matteo (now we are no longer friends :D:p:p) told me to try to drive without cluch in downshit and yes, the car was a little more manageable and fast but my gearbox was totally kaputt at the half of race
    But even without these problems was very difficult for me to finish on podium

    Thanks all and see you next race!
     
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  15. Matteo Santini

    Matteo Santini Pro Driver

    As often happens lately I joined qualif session with 1 min to go, so I had no time to do a timed lap and I started last.
    Lap 1 was great until the last chicane when Alessandro Tancioni, my faithful teammate, forgot how to brake ramming my poor car:(. 15 seconds lost from the leaders and the race was practically over. I was coming back with a great pace, and at lap 10 or so I managed to reach Maxime's car. Maxime was pretty slow in the first couple of corners, so I managed to get alongside him before the braking at T3, but probably he didn't see me at all, tightening the line on the inside like nobody was there, so our cars came to contact and I spun again. I know that Maxime is a fair driver and he surely didn't on purpose, cause when we talked after the race he wasn't aware we had a contact. It was definitely not my night.

    The rest of the race was an attempt to reach my other teammate Alessandro Isacchini, but my suggestions about the uselessness of the clutch deprived me of the joy to overtake him during the final part of the race, when he crashed his gearbox :rolleyes::rolleyes:

    I could sum it up with these three words: "A shitty race".:D

    See you for the next, hopefully a bit earlier than usual:rolleyes:
     
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  16. Maxime Tendil

    Maxime Tendil Pro Driver

    Sorry @Phil Brown for our little contact in the entry of St Mary, I didn't want to put my rear just on your nose, though I was barely controlling my car at this moment due to a small mistake just before.

    I hate this track as much as I love it. My pace was horrible. All my racing week was so bad.

    @Matteo Santini I'm sorry that we got this tiny contact before St Mary, unfortuantely leading to an off for you, though I quite disagree with your facts reading : I don't know if you watched the replay, I did very closely and to me this was no more than a pure racing incident. I knew very well that you were there of course, and I tried to keep an outline lane in this right turn and when we contacted in this side to side action, you had more than 1 car width still to your right. So sorry but I disagree with me "tightening the line on the inside like nobody was there". :) What is very likely is that we had pretty different ways of entering this corner I guess.
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    Congrats to you on your great comeback to podium, to Lorenzo for P2 and Tim for another true show.
     
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  17. Matteo Santini

    Matteo Santini Pro Driver

    Completely disagree with your analisys Maxime. this picture speaks by its own mate. For your point of view I could reply that you had more track than me on your left, but it would be a silly reasoning.
    We were both braking in that point and nobody with a brain would have gone more right than I was at that point. My fornt was pointing clearly to the inside kerb, and that was the only proper line to do that corner side by side, but you clearly tightened the line on me, as I repeat, this image speaks by itself. I'm not saying that was a deliberate manouvre to crash on me of course, but I have to completely disagree with your point of view.
    Hope you don't mind :D
     
  18. Maxime Tendil

    Maxime Tendil Pro Driver

    Right when you're alone, false when when you're overtaking another car. In any racing situation, when a car is overtaking another one by the inside, this very car has to go as much on the inside as possible. It looks elementary to me, so I hope I might buy a brain in the nearest store... You could clearly get more on the inside because you were about to overtake me. A driver who overtakes can't be as fast as when he's alone, he can't neither pick an ideal line as if he was alone.
    Your front is clearly pointing at the left of the apex.
    So where should my car go then ? Starting to turn only when reaching the kerb ? It's just impossible. You just exposed the fact that this corner is tricky, as everyone knows, and everyone knows that you can't enter it on the left side of the track, and even barely on the middle of the track.

    So I disagree with your disagreement. If you think that I'm clearly the main responsible of this contact, then fill a protest and let's see what the guys in charge think about the situation by studying the replay.
     
  19. Matteo Santini

    Matteo Santini Pro Driver

    Maxime, people don't have to share the entire track, but racing line, otherwise we come back to that silly reasoning in which you state that I had some free track on the right, and I could say that you've more space on your left. It doesn't work in that way in motorsport. If we had to share the racing line, you clearly invaded what was my part of the racing line. Your car is pointing to the curb too, but I was on the inside part of the racing line well befor we collided. You should have gone on the inside if you wanted to defend.
    At that point I was on the inside and completely alongside you, you have no right to do that line, like nobody wasn't there. I repeat, that image speaks by itself mate.

    Than, I'm a bit tired to file protest, but I strongly disagree with what you're stating, especially with your first reasoning about I had free track on the right. This is not the way to judge an incident like this.
    That corner was tricky? Yes
    You could have do more to avoid the contact? That's sure
     
  20. Maxime Tendil

    Maxime Tendil Pro Driver

    Matteo, to me it's clear that you didn't more respect my racing line than I did respect yours if we are to present things this way. So to me it's a racing incident with a very slight front wing to front wing contact leading to, unfortuantely, bad consequences. Perhaps I'm wrong, but it's the way I see the things.
    You claim that despite being fair usually, this time I drove like if nobody had been there, so that in other words I'm the bad guy of the story. And you did that right at the end of the race yet, before any replay review, saying I hadn't been kind. I feel offended in my racing state of mind.
    If in this case I really did bad in a clear manner, and you didn't as much as I did, then I'm guilty and faulty. But it's not only because you claim it to be that it actually is.
    Why are you tired to file protests, it's not that tiring for the involved drivers, let's just give the file to objective people in charge, and if they state that I'm mainly guilty I'll observe the sanction with the satisfaction to better get what the site thinks I'm supposed to do or not to do in such circumstances, notably because if I was guilty, I wish I had waited for you to recover of course.
    I never filed any protest untill now, why not doing "against myself" for the first time ? :D
     
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