Indepentend Pedals

Hi guys, because my G29 pedals cause some trouble, even after repeated cleaning them, the problem came back. So I expect that the problem cames back sooner or later.

A solution could be to buy a set of indepentendly operating pedals, has anyone here experience with that? I mean I know that the fanatec bundle look promising but I heard that they are not that bulletproof. Which would not be the ideal upgrade.

Thanks in advance

 

You are right, depends on my budget but to be honest until now I have not thought about that. I paid arround 200€ for my G29, so spending twice as much for pedals is quite a stretch. On the other hand, the list of features sounds astonishing. If one needs that is another question, so that is something to evaluate.

Thanks Ken for the advice.

 

Just found this post a few moments ago and purely by coincidence, as I was reading it, the postman delivered my new 'independent pedals' - all the way from China!
Until recently I used a G27 wheel with Thrustmaster T-LCM pedals. I can confirm that the T-LCM set are a vast improvement over the stock G27 set. The 29's pedals are meant to be an improvement on the 27's, but the T-LCM's are still way better than the Logitech's.
The Clubsport V3 are better than the T-LCM's, but (second-hand) the Thrustmasters are about half the price of the Fanatecs.
I compared the T-LCM set with a CSL V1 set and preferred the T-LCM's.
The reason I bought the Chinese pedals ("Sim Rui to Racing simulator pedals130KG Load Cell For Logitech G29 G27 Thrustmaster T300RS Stainless Steel Driving Simulator") from (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/100...id=51fd0463-a271-414a-a3de-86e3fed23982&_t=gp) was partly because I just wanted to buy something from China I wanted 2 pedals rather than 3 and because a new set of these is less than a second-hand set of T-LCM's!
I paid a total of £122 for the 2 pedal set with 2 'hydraulic rods' and they were delivered without incident in just 12 days (I've waited longer for deliveries from within the UK!)
Obviously I can't tell you yet how they compare to Logitech or Thrustmaster as they have literally just arrived and are still in their packaging. It will be several days before I set them up.
It would be interesting to know what you end up with, so please update your post when you settle on a solution.
Best of luck.

 

Update: still adjusting/setting up/getting used to the Chinese pedals, but so far, so good. Really pleased with them and they definitely seem better value than the Fanatec's/Logitech's/Thrustmaster's.
Still like to know what you end up going with.

 

There's also SimJack. I believe pretty much the same as what Gilles Sim Rui pedals. Maybe with a few differences. Correct me if I'm wrong.

https://www.aliexpress.com/w/wholes...ck+pro+pedals&spm=a2g0o.productlist.1000002.0

Can't seem to post YouTube videos on here. Here is a video talking about them. Just copy/paste in the title on YouTube.

SIMJACK Pro Pedals 'DRIVE AND TALK' Oldman chatter early impressions!
First video. His name is Sim Racing Corner.

Good luck Philipp.

 

Not wrong. Exactly right. Very minor differences between all the Chinese makes. Sim Jacks were the first and are the best known, but Ruito / Simsonns / Sim X etc all seem to be of similar high quality (rip-off's of Heusinkveld) and all seem to get good reviews. Definitely worth checking out.

 

Thanks guys, to be honest I have no clue what I should do. After removing the plug and inserting it again, my gas pedal is working as it should, so I have gained time to make a decision. (Brake pedal is causing minor trouble now)

To be honest I am a bit skeptical regarding the china pedal option, because even though I am not affraid of tinkering, it is tempting to avoid that

For instance I found out, that it would be possible to upgrade my G29 pedals with a kit that replaces wiring and potentiometer. (Which might be the parts that are failing at m pedal set)

I keep you posted, what pedal set it will be in the end.

 

Not sure what you mean, because what you are thinking of seems like an awful lot of tinkering and there is absolutely zero tinkering required with the Chinese pedals.
Also, the price for the 3DRAP kit seems overly expensive and

you are not even certain which parts of your pedals might be faulty.

I wouldn't rush into any decision, (hopefully the brake will come good too) but personally, If it was my money, I think I would be looking for another solution, even if it was a secondhand set of something considered to be better than the G29's (and I'm certainly not suggesting you should get a set of Chinese pedals) but it seems to me that the best you could expect from the 3DRAP route is an updated and working set of discontinued equipment that may still have an underlying fault.
The very best of luck Philipp.

 

Of course, that is a missunderstanding, I compared that kit to any solution that is different than buying something from a "brand" as Fanatec/Thrustmaster/Logitech/Moza...
Where I would expect more or less plug and play, as it was for my G29 pedals.

In the video I posted, the guy reviewing it was sort of enthusiastic about the result. While he was not initially satisfied with the Sim Jack pedals and the reviews of the Sim Rui sound similar. So that might the third dimension.

Anyway, most of them seemed satisfied in the end and your review sounds more positive. As said, thanks for the advice.

 

This really, really, really, really doesn't seem like 'plug&play'
My RuiTo pedals, on the other hand, are absolutely 100% 'plug&play'. They come with a very small control box, into which you can plug gas, brake, clutch and 2 shifters. All cables were supplied. Pedals plugged into the control box and control box plugged into a usb slot on the computer. Done!
I've seen videos of people calibrating their pedals in FreeJoy (and DiView - I think they are called). I did not. I checked Windows recognised them, (it did) then I calibrated them in rFactor. Maybe I'm missing something (?) but they seem to be working perfectly and I'm not sure what more I could want from them. The more I use them, the more I love them. They could of course fail epically tomorrow, but I very much doubt it and I do believe they are a massive improvement over the Thrustmaster T-LCM's they have replaced.
Cheers and good luck.

 

You can also sent them in but that was not what I meant, as said I expect the gold standard regarding plug and play from "a "brand" as Fanatec/Thrustmaster/Logitech/Moza...", while someone who buys a kit, most likely knows how much tinkering he is up to do. The more I think about it, the first option seems more preferable, so thats the tricky part, when moving away from something known. You rely on experiences from others or just try it out yourself...

Anyway, one more question regarding your Ruito pedals, they came without a base plate and you fitted them to one you already had? That is a bit confusing on the shop page and you also did not mention it explicitly (or I overread it).

 

My rig is made of wood, so attaching the pedals is easy and a base-plate was not necessary for me.

I'm not sure what the first option was . . . . . but if you decide to go the Chinese route, keep an eye on prices, as they seem to fluctuate a lot. Also, make sure to take advantage of any discount coupons offered - from what I remember, the set I bought were advertised for around £120 - 2 discount coupons (listed with the pedals) brought the price down to about £100 - customs duty etc (collected at time of purchase) brought the price back to around £120 again (no further import duties etc were required).
Checking prices in Ruito Store at the moment shows the two pedal set (with hydraulic rods) listed for £123 but there are currently no applicable discount coupons listed - so, if bought today, total price delivered to the UK would be £143. Next week they will probably be £20 cheaper. Delivery to Germany is free. I have no idea regarding import duties to Germany but I would guess 20% of purchase price.
If you need/want a base-plate, Ruito are charging £87 today. I'm sure I've seen them listed from around £60 - other manufacturers plates may also work.
Today on Ruito, two pedals, rods and base-plate are £210. Three pedals with base-plate but no rods is also £210.
The absolute most important thing to remember - and I really can't stress this enough - if you do decide to get a set of Chinese pedals - it is 100% your choice and I am completely blameless if they instantly fail
If I could afford a set of pedals from Heusinkveld, VRS, Asetek etc. etc. I probably wouldn't have gone down the 'Silk Road'.
As an old Chinese philosopher once said: "Choose wisely my friend"
The very best of luck Philipp.

PS: I just remembered that I never mentioned why I needed a new set of pedals - drum roll please - I had a set of G27's that I used for many years. Then one day I thought I could improve them by adding a load-cell kit. Bought a kit and while installing it - I completely stuffed up the 27's
Replaced them with Thrustmaster T-LCM's. Bought a new rig (see above) then decided two pedals are better than one....

 

Nice rig, I have none yet (apart from the wheel mounted to a desk and the pedals), but that is another issue.

Sort of, might be 19% and more if the price of the good is over 150 €, which can be quite a mess, if the sender does not submit the sufficient documents, then you are requiered to go to the custom office ...

Of course, I mean you are not receive a commission from them, aren`t you? Even though you doing a good job, as said thanks for the advice

I learned a lot in this thread, I did not know much about single pedals that you are attaching directly to a rig and never heard Heusinkveld etc. before. Probably a bit naive, but in my world Fanatec was sort of the top of them game (at least regarding the price). Turns out, no you can spend way more for more advanced technology, features, quality etc.

So, to sum it up, the "first" options I considered was basically the Fanatec V3 Clubsport pedals Ken mentioned, although I have to say, for someone who bought his G29 five years ago, 400 € are quite a big step. Therefore I am considering the CSL (Elite or not) too. Thrustmaster T-LCM, Logitech G PRO Racing, Moza SR-P do also seem too shabby, as well as ruito/sim jack aka silk pedals. So a lot of options and I am therefore at the same time smarter but still clueless. But luck and some chinese philosophy might help, if anything.

 

Nice, but not perfect. I think I'd prefer an aluminum one, but you can't have what you can't get...

That's what I had before this one. This one is a lot more expensive, but it's only very slightly better and is a lot less convienent.

Absolutely not, Zero affiliation. Zero commission. Just impressed with the product and even more impressed with the service. (But what I like - someone else will hate. Guaranteed.)

Nothing I have said should be taken as 'advice' - just the ranblings of an old man
And while I can't bring myself to 'advise' you . . . . I don't think I'd be keen to invest in the 3DRAP solution.

I lived in the exact same world untill very recently

Yes, but to quote yourself (and I totally agree with you) -

Not to be taken as 'advice'; just uneducated opinions: after G29's, I'm not sure you would be satisfied with the CSL's or the T-LCP's. I've heard good stuff about the Logitech G Pro but nothing very good about the Moza SR-P (By the way . . I've got a set of T-LCM's for sale . . if you'e interested . . they are really good )

That's the story of my life! I might get that quote printed on a tee-shirt
As another old Chinese philosopher is known to have said: "Good luck buddy"