rFactor 2 INDYCAR DALLARA - General Rules & Info

Caitlin what would you do to solve the root problem? Are you under the assumption that it's not being looked into?
A lot of possibilities as to what the problem actually is or it could be dumb luck. With the resources available I think they are working on it. Every league I have ever been in has had mass disconnections.

 

The admin does not need to know where everyone was before disconnect, it's should be each drivers responsibility to fall behind the driver they were behind before the disconect, any driver that gains position unfairly during fcy can be given a post race penalty.

Maybe Rob could mention on teamspeak if anyone is out of position before we go green again but it should be the driver that bears responsibility for knowing their place.

 

I get that, I'm just a bit fed up with disconnecting all the time. Sorry if I came across as unreasonable.

 

Rob has his own thing going on at that time.

It could be minutes before people are able to reconnect and are able to notify of a disconnect. At what point is the protocol put into effect? I would say when the FCY order is given and at that point you are already at the back of that lap most cases.

 

The protocol would go into affect once everyone is behind the leader under fcy at which point drivers would get into the position they were in just before they disconnected which would be the driver they were behind before disconnect to account for any net position changes if people don't disconnect at exactly the same time.

 

No, the protocol is activated when the marshal receives the 3rd disconnect confirmation and gives the FCY order. Anything that happens before that is not under the protocol.

It's a lot to ask of every driver to know why someone is behind them and at what point it happened. Was it a spin or did they pit or something else? I'm just glad to not be laps down.

 

I was just proposing an alternative protocol that was fairer for all concerned, its up to the admins to decide what they want to do, as I said it would be for each driver to remember which driver was ahead of them when they disconnect and then make sure they are behind them during FCY, should be easy as long as people use the HUD to keep tabs of whos in front of them.

 

There is no way Rob would have memorised the whole field order (especially 20 cars) when he has other things to do. These disconnects have caught him by surprise as much as you all.

 

Yep.

 

It is indeed fairer, but also more complex. But I see a lot potential for confusion, in particular reagrding pit stops. Lets assume the following, before my disconnect I was behind e.g. Caitlin in fourth, who pits before the FCY is called and is now in sixth. When I rejoin, what position am I now, seventh, still fourth or third? Due to this edge cases I would keep it as simple as possible. At least for now, because that whole thing could be already too complicated, to get it right without practise.

That said, I have a question to the protocol @John vd Geest What happens to the pits? Are they closed when the FCY is called, as in Indy Car (you can only do a emergency splash and dash without changing tyres) or open all the time as in F1? Both cases have implications. Maybe the easiest option is to keep them open.
One thing is very important in any of those cases. Never pit as late as possible regarding fuel, because after the disco you have to do a full lap with the amount of fuel you had when the disco occured.

@Caitlin Penny Regarding computers or software you are not able to prove that it is working correct all the time, you only can show that there is an error/bug/issue at a certain point. The latter happened and the issue is, the parameters for the issue are unclear because there is no coherent pattern, so it is as they said, you cannot be sure about anything. As a consequence, any option to change something is a shot in the dark or maybe even unreasonable, because of various reasons. Thats on them to judge and decide.
In such situations, the only thing you always can do is to collect more data points, which is true for all stakeholders, because if the server is not the root cause for your issues, nothing they will do will prevent your discos and might appear elsewhere too. So if I were you, I would try to do some tests, maybe try a race in a different series/league to see, if the discos persists under different circumstances. Or really do only happen on the SRO Indy Car server.

 

we had issues before when custom skins were used and when got rid of skins, all was fine..
also i do have a question...do one get fresh rubber after disco?

 

I guess thats the best compromise if we have fresh tyres, hopefully it does not happen again as it will end up deciding championships, I actually enjoyed going back through the pack at road America but I can understand if others are not too happy with the places they have lost.

 

Is that case, because you guys changed something in the settings or just a guess? My experience in Road America after the disco was different, at rejoining I got the same amount of fuel, tyres and the same setup as I had, when I lost the connection. (See result viewer tab Race result/laps) I assume also damage would be still there, but as you will get a "cheap" pitstop, that does not change much.