rFactor 2 Round 4 Sao Paulo - Sun Nov 3, 2024

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  1. Neil Wood

    Neil Wood Pro Driver Donator

    it's 18:40 GMT right now
     
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  3. Randy Marek

    Randy Marek Pro Driver Donator

    USA! USA! USA! And the EU!
     

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  4. Johnny Gutierrez

    Johnny Gutierrez Pro Driver

    Great racing guys. Top notch standards. Just dive bomb everyone, what the heck. And ohhh, don't forget to enter the track and just destroy a persons race. Hmmm, what else. Blows my mind.
     
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  5. Simon Barnes

    Simon Barnes Pro Driver

    Sorry I couldn't race tonight.
    Practised hard all afternoon offline.
    As soon as I got online, it felt like a different car. Really slow, couldn't change down, very choppy. Guess my ping/laptop wasn't up to it...
    Decided not to run as I'd have just been a menace.
     
  6. Kahel Grahf

    Kahel Grahf Pro Driver

    @Gilles da'Silva ... what was that...?!? (lap 27 for the hyper and lap 24 for GTE's...)

    I mean this kind of move is just unF'ingbelievable... just go straigt to me while I was already clearly taking the apex... MAKE ABSOLUTELy no sense to me... what goes into your mind on this kind of move...?

    Honestly I'm speechless on this one...
     
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  7. Toni Talvitie

    Toni Talvitie Pro Driver Donator

    Had great drive, no mistakes, no traffic incidents, i did pass @Tim Cartwright little late on left hander after 2nd straight and couple awkward moments with gt3 about whose going where but wanted to doit like it should.
    Went flat out but top 2 just too fast. Lose .5 - .8 seconds on that horseshoe alone. Share some setups lol.
    Matej then sneaked on me and then noticed he is not going for a splash at pits so that was that. Damn.
    Happy with my driving, but result gets me depressed so going to sink it in that Maker's Mark and some blues from youtube.
     
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  8. Robin Taylor

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    Apologies Johnny my fault completely, thought I was able to get thru and passed. I'm happy to take a penalty next race.
     
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  9. Kahel Grahf

    Kahel Grahf Pro Driver

    @Kostas Kantzouras ... lap 38 for hyper and 32 for GTE's...

    You can't go for a gap that will (obviously) not be there by the time you attempt the outside...
    It was a very high speed corner... a gte going full speed get deported wide... it's physicaly impossible to avoid this kind of move... not to mention impossible to predict...

    At the very least in those kind of situation... you misjudged, that's fine... but you should have take the off track and overtake me very wide and avoid me...
    Far from the worst move I've seen tonight... but not great either...
     
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  10. Johnny Gutierrez

    Johnny Gutierrez Pro Driver

    Can you believe, you were one of the good drivers. You just put the cherry on the cake though. I'd had enough. The rest of you. Mind boggling. I'll let the one that turns everyone in have a field day as he's good at it. I'm out.
     
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  11. Kahel Grahf

    Kahel Grahf Pro Driver

    @ed Jones... lap 44 for GTE's...

    I can only guess it's was a misjudgement... I saw you lift to let me pass... it was kind of tight for me to go to the right and take the corner full speed... so I had to take it slower in this spot... my guess is you were surprised and didn't time thing right...
    I kind of move a bit under braking... but since you let me pass for blue flag I didn't expected you anywhere near me...

    Anyway, A shame. And sorry it ended up into an accident... at the time it happened I was so surprised I thought it was a lag... but I get what happened (after watching the replay...)
     
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  12. Toni Talvitie

    Toni Talvitie Pro Driver Donator

    I think you should put protests going or atleast inform John about who where and what.
     
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  13. Kahel Grahf

    Kahel Grahf Pro Driver

    @Freddy Hell... lap 61 for hyper and 51 for GTE's...

    You can't just dive last minute this way... we were extremely lucky it didn't end up into a disaster.
    (if I didn't brake late and understeer wide into the corner... it would have been an accident... it was really a matter of luck... this kind of move should be ban...)

    PS: Ok... I think that's it... sorry about the multi-message... but I had to get this out of the system before going to sleep... what a tough one...
     
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  14. Toni Talvitie

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  15. Kahel Grahf

    Kahel Grahf Pro Driver

    I'm also wondering if I should be out... after witnessing this kind of driving standard tonight...
    Anyway... that's enough of it for tonight... I'll think about it tomorrow with a clearer head and take a dicision then...

    (PS: real shame because beside some atrocious moves... I also seen a lot of well behave hyper's... it's just all get thrown to shit because of a few mindbogling attempt's...)
     
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  16. Neil Wood

    Neil Wood Pro Driver Donator

    Seeing a pattern here....

    I don't want to say "I told you so"..... but..... "I TOLD YOU SO".

    It is very clear some of the hypers DO need to understand the limitations of a GT3 and not just send it and hope they see you at the last minute. The difference in speed is so dramatic that a look in the mirror coming out the corner for 2 seconds (and not seeing a car), then looking away, then a car will appear beside you out of nowhere! It's also an advantage if some could plan further ahead than just the end of the hood of their car?

    If a GT3 is on the racing line, chances are they are staying on it (particularly at the fastest point of the circuit). If you see a gap, but it's closing.... sneaking through said gap only puts both cars at risk (Most likely the GT3!). Learn to anticipate, also don't feel bad you might have to lift.... it will probably save time in the long run, and won't ruin anyone's race.

    But no matter what I say, these driving standards have been going on since race 1 and I have pretty much lost hope that any learnings are happening, which is a shame.
     
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  17. Barrett Erickson

    Barrett Erickson Pro Driver

    just watching the stream (nice job, as usual, Rob) and now i know why tiny pedals radar popped up a couple time when i couldn't see any cars :).

    that was quite the adventure, Neil. i was wondering where you went.
     
  18. Randy Marek

    Randy Marek Pro Driver Donator

    Some of the GT car stay on the line like normal but not all. Some GTs every other time you pass them is different. They will leave a gap and drive off line one time and next time do something completely different and a few move under breaking. Some is over aggressiveness but the issues is absolutely on both sides.
     
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  20. Nick Westy

    Nick Westy Pro Driver Donator

    intense race, robin was untouchable in qualy, good battle in the first stint, was all about who could lap traffic the fastest and not loose time.

    Was going to 2 stop but noticed I might be able to make it on 1 so was faffing around with the fuel and tyre settings on my wheel as I came into pit lane, for some reason I hit speed limiter button and did not use it when exiting so got a 10 second stop go, thought my race was wrecked there and then, went to aggressive fuel save for the last 45 mins with lots of lift and coast to get to the end without a splash which gave me victory.

    On the last lap I had to go wide to avoid a GT car on the fast double right hander and got on the marbles and into the barrier, front left was destroyed but only hand 1 more sector to complete and a 16 second buffer thankfully.

    loving your skin @Toni Talvitie, good job I was in front of you because that skin is distracting lol.
     
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